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[pikachu]

بعد بحث طويل و مشاهده فيدوهات على اليوتيوب و بعد ما سألت جلافرات كتيييييييييييييييير
اخيرا توصلت لاحسن بيلد للجليف و هو من الاخر
wep\fir90
cold72
light48
و ده موضوع منقول من silkroadforums فيه بالتفصيل الممل ليه البيلد ده احسن للجليف و شكرا
Many of you keep suggesting 90 weapon/90 fire/90 light/30 ice STR builds.
The thing is, its just not that good and you're more than often gonna end up getting the person massacred in pvp, or theyll have to run away.

what exactly does lightning provide to everyone that is so appealing?

First of all, the figures for 90 light look like this =>

Maxed Force Piercing Force = 18% magical boost.
Maxed Grasswalk = 77% moving speed gained at lvl 85.
Maxed Ghostwalk = 23 meters at lvl 90.
Maxed Concentration = 34 Parry gained at lvl 89.
Maxed Passive = 33 Parry at 90.

In total it takes 166,488 SP to get all that maxed. Congrats, you can kill monsters *applause*.

Now im giving you my perfect 90 cap STR build =>
90 weapon/90 fire/72 ice/48 light

lvl 72 Ice is just good enough for Might Guard of Ice lvl 3.
Might Guard lvl 3 = 63 Physial defense.
Ice Passive = 59 Physical defense.
combined they equal 122 physical defense.
what can you compare that much raw physical defense to?
a completely clean 89 garm leg minus the reinforce.


how much defense is 30 ice? 8 from passive, 8 from the soft guard of ice buff. A whopping 16 physical defense. "But you're a strength char you already have high physical defense" thats so much bull, the increased physical defense makes a world of difference and you wouldn't understand until you pvped someone with high ice. Next up is grasswalk...

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We can clear out the grasswalk due to typhoons or bards.
77% grasswalk+garments give you 97% moving speed. It doesn't go beyond that, you get a new book of grasswalk 7 levels after you've maxed out the previous book and from the looks of it the new one is coming at lvl 92.

against monsters with a 72 ice/ 48 light build that ive stated you have 53% moving speed.
Thats already better than moving speed scrolls, and with garms you have 73% MOVING SPEED!!!!
if you can't tolerate 73% speed then you're just way too impatient, 73% is remarkable for 48 light

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Now parry ratio, has anyone really seen a difference between 25 and 30 parry ratio? Whenever i lvled up parry, it felt like a waste of sp. Anyway, we'll treat this as if a few points actually mattered...oh wait they kinda dont.

You can increase your parry ratio on each equipment by over 20%.
How much parry are we at for a typical player this 90 cap? like 400 parry?
a Parry ratio scroll, which increases your parry by 30%, would increase your parry by 120 Points with that given figure. That's how significant of a parry change you must have in order to feel a difference, not the 1 point of parry you gain by lvling up concentration once.

lvl 90 concentration (34 parry) + passive (33 parry) = 67 parry points
lvl 48 concentration (23 parry) + passive (21 parry) = 44 parry points

A difference of 23 Parry, big difference? thats a big fat lol

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now we've got the magical buff.
18% at lvl 88,
17% at lvl 78,
16% at lvl 68,

just to go from 16% to 18% it takes a crazy 54,000 SP. Is that worth it for 2% more mag when you're str?
That's almost insignificant, the only INT you have is the 1 int you get just for lvling up, and whatever int you have on your gears. And even then only 2% of that is added to your imbue damage, thats almost nothing. But why even 16% mag boost?

for 16% magical boost (force piercing force lvl 1) you need to have lvl 68 lightning.
after that level it takes forever to gain 1% more magical damage, yet for some reason the previous levels come by easier.

12% at lvl 48
13% at lvl 51
15% at lvl 54

wow it goes up 3% in 6 levels, wheras from lvl 68 to 88 (20 levels) it only goes up 2%.
Point is, completely not worth it for STR which gain very little from it.
12% is more than enough, which gives you 48 light. Joymax knows it, I know it, and you are now informed of it.

Lastly we have Ghostwalk - Shadow (or phantom for low lvls).
It would be nice if it wasn't a complete ripoff.
from lvl 32-65 each time you lvled it up it gave you a 1 meter increase.
Then for some reason it dropped to .5 meters, yet cost five times more SP.

lvl'ing up the skill from 62 to 65 phantom costs 4,658 sp for 21meters
lvl'ing up the skill from 84 to 90 shadow costs .. 24,746 for 23meters

wait...what...lvl 62 phantom compared to 90 phantom..the difference is only 2 meters? lol.
yes thats right people, its only a 2 meter difference.

but with my build, lvl 48 light, its only 15meters. Its 8 meters shorter than 90 light so its a Big difference.
15 meters is good enough though, believe me it wont be as necessary when people with 90 light have to run away from YOU because they can't do enough damage on you to kill you.

Face it, no one can kill anyone thats moving, a 90 light person with 97% speed (garms) cant kill a 48 light person with MUCH HIGHER physical defense that has a typhoon on, its just impossible, the moving speed the build provides which is 73% moving speed with garms is even extremely hard to take down, the opponent gets out of range too often, its just not happening.


In conclusion,

1)the parry ratio difference is shit,
2)the magical boost difference is shit,
3)the grasswalk can be replaced with a typhoon, bard, or you can tolerate the 73% moving speed from the grasswalk buff+ garms which is still spectacular considering its 48 light,
4)122 physical defense from your Ice is much better than someone with 18% magical boost compared to your 12% magical boost.

Overall, you are much stronger than someone with 90 light.
And whats sexy is that you also have 3 different Snow Shield books all used for different occasions.

It is the perfect STR Build, so f*ck you guys telling all newcomers that 90 weap/90 fire/90 light/30 ice is the way to go, you're just screwing over everyone else and if you're also going with that build then gg for you. Sorry for the 'barotix'-type rant but don't give new people sub par builds, it honestly doesnt help anyone and if you're only doing it because its easier to say 90 weap/90fire/90light/30 cold than all this

[pikachu]

محدش قال رأيه

[pikachu]

no comment ??
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[sam201055]

انا عندى حل ليك مش وحش انت ما دام بتحب الكولد اعمل البيلد دة 90جليف و 90 فاير دول اساسى مفيش خلاف عليهم صح؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
نيجى للباقى اية رايك تعمل 58 لايت و 62 كولد كدة انت موازن مابين الاثنين

هايكون معاك فى الكولد
ال physical defense هايزيد بمقدار 87
و كمان معاك 3 Snow Shield
دة فى الكولد اما اللايت فاهيكون معاك
ال Magical damage هايزيد بمقدار 15%
السرعة هاتكون 59%
ال Ghost walk هاتكون 17متر
ال Parry ratio هايزيد بمقدار 54

على ما اعتقد البيلد دة جمع مابين الاثنين ووازن بينهم وقولى رايك فى البيلد دة اية

[pikachu]

شكرا للرد يا حميل
بس ده برده قريب من اللى انا بقوله
انا مش محتاج الphantom و فى نفس الوقت هاتبقى15 متر فى لفل 48 و دى مسافه ابعد من ضربه النيوك
و فى نفس الوقت كولد 72 هايزودنى 122فيزيكال دفنس ده بخلاف السنو شيلد
ولا ايه

[sam201055]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة pikachu عفوا ,,, لايمكنك مشاهده الروابط لانك غير مسجل لدينا [ للتسجيل اضغط هنا ]

شكرا للرد يا حميل
بس ده برده قريب من اللى انا بقوله
انا مش محتاج الphantom و فى نفس الوقت هاتبقى15 متر فى لفل 48 و دى مسافه ابعد من ضربه النيوك
و فى نفس الوقت كولد 72 هايزودنى 122فيزيكال دفنس ده بخلاف السنو شيلد
ولا ايه

اولا انت مالك بالسنو شيلد من الاساس انت Pure STR ياعنى متقدرش تستخدم Snow اكتر من 32% لانك لو استخدمت 32% او اكتر مش هايكون عندك MP علشان تضرب لان ال Snow بيسحب من ال mp بغباء وفى لفل 62 ال Snow Shield هايكون معاك بنسبة 40%
لما يكون اللايت 58 بدل 48 بص على فرق السرعة وال Parry ratio الفرق دة مش وحش وبردو هايكون معاك 87 physical defense احسن من ال 16 الى فى لفل 30

[pikachu]

ok i will try
thnx

[_Admiral_]

شباب انا جليف بلعب فى بوسيدون 90fire
90 light
30 cold
protector set
come to see me
DAGO

[almoniry1]

والله من الأخر الجليف مبقلوش لزمة من غير فورس وانا متأكد من كلامى هات واحد لفل 90 جليف مبيلعبش فورس ولعبو بى فى بى قصاد لفل 90 نيوكر s/s وشوف اللى هيحصل النيوكر هيظبت الجليف انما الجليف لو فورس وال devision تشتغل النيوكر مش هياخد أكتر من 1hit من غير سنو وأحسن حاجة فى الجليف انو ممكن ميخدش 1hit منى عشان دمه عالى وحمار ضرب شوية بس أخرو معايا 2hits :P

[almoniry1]

يعنى الجليف ال build الصح بتاعو يكون كدة weapon 90 - fire 90 - force 90 - cold 30 - light 0 صدقونى هو ده اللى بياكل .سلاااااااااام

[almoniry1]

وممكن يشرب عادى يعنى :d

[RuN4urLIFE]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة almoniry1 عفوا ,,, لايمكنك مشاهده الروابط لانك غير مسجل لدينا [ للتسجيل اضغط هنا ]

يعنى الجليف ال build الصح بتاعو يكون كدة weapon 90 - fire 90 - force 90 - cold 30 - light 0 صدقونى هو ده اللى بياكل .سلاااااااااام

بص انا جربت قبل كدا البيلد اللي بتتكلم عليه ده و هو مالوش لازمه اساسا عشان كل اللي في ال pvp واخدين BUFF و جربت 90 LIGHT برده لاقيته مالوش اي لازمه و احسن بيلد انا ارتحت فيه هو wep90 fire90 cold90 و معظم ال glaviers بقوا عاملين كدا وبعدين انت ماسك +5 ازاي اخري 1hit looooool و الناس عارفه كلها مين اللي اخرو ضربه واحده stuff or glavier

[police_3001]

واللهي يا جماعة الواحد احتار

كل واحد لية رأي مختلف عن التاني وكلة شايف انة هو الصح الواحد مش عارف يعمل اية
انا ماشي fire 90 +weapon90+وسايب light على 60 لحد منرسى نشوف احسن حاجة اية بدل ماطلع كل دة وانزلة تاني

تحياتي

[almoniry1]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة RuN4urLIFE عفوا ,,, لايمكنك مشاهده الروابط لانك غير مسجل لدينا [ للتسجيل اضغط هنا ]

بص انا جربت قبل كدا البيلد اللي بتتكلم عليه ده و هو مالوش لازمه اساسا عشان كل اللي في ال pvp واخدين BUFF و جربت 90 LIGHT برده لاقيته مالوش اي لازمه و احسن بيلد انا ارتحت فيه هو wep90 fire90 cold90 و معظم ال glaviers بقوا عاملين كدا وبعدين انت ماسك +5 ازاي اخري 1hit looooool و الناس عارفه كلها مين اللي اخرو ضربه واحده stuff or glavier

بحلق شوية فى الصورة بتاعتى هتلاقيها ماسكة موووووووووووون و +5 كمان يعنى 1 hit مش أكتر عشان خطرك انت بس :P

[sam201055]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة almoniry1 عفوا ,,, لايمكنك مشاهده الروابط لانك غير مسجل لدينا [ للتسجيل اضغط هنا ]

بحلق شوية فى الصورة بتاعتى هتلاقيها ماسكة موووووووووووون و +5 كمان يعنى 1 hit مش أكتر عشان خطرك انت بس :P

انت حتى لو ماسك Sun+5 لو ادام جليفر مظبط نفسة مش هاتعرف تموتو من ضربة واحدة انت تعرف اساس ال HP بتاع الجليفر فى لفل 90 كام لو كنت تعرف مكنتش قولت كدة